From Jed Mckenna's notebook:
The unenlightened state is the magical, mysterious, incomprehensible state. Awake is just awake. It’s not something more, it’s everything less.
My state is natural and easy. I carry no baggage. I labor under no delusion. I don’t spend my life force animating a fictional persona. All paradox lies with the unawakened state.
The awakened don’t have something that the unawakened are missing, it’s the other way around.
The unawakened possess massive structures of false belief. They create and maintain these vast realms of past, present and future; of great meaning and importance; of a deep and wide emotional range; all woven together out of sheer nothingness. Something from nothing; that’s the magic, that’s the special state.
This is a link to an interview, or better an uninterview, or conversation between Jerry Katz and me on 28 December 2012.